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	<description>On the database I blog.</description>
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		<title>Comment on Ancient Treasure by Wendell Ratigan</title>
		<link>http://fredcoulson.com/blog/fred/index.php/2010/01/02/ancient-treasure/comment-page-1/#comment-99823</link>
		<dc:creator>Wendell Ratigan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 12:25:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting site man Thank you</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting site man Thank you</p>
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		<title>Comment on 3 Normal Forms Tutorial by Pretty Geeks</title>
		<link>http://fredcoulson.com/blog/fred/index.php/3-normal-forms-tutorial/comment-page-2/#comment-99017</link>
		<dc:creator>Pretty Geeks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jul 2010 11:28:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice and detailed article to clear concepts on urgent basis especially when have short time to prepare for Database interview. ThaNks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice and detailed article to clear concepts on urgent basis especially when have short time to prepare for Database interview. ThaNks</p>
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		<title>Comment on 3 Normal Forms Tutorial by Chatura</title>
		<link>http://fredcoulson.com/blog/fred/index.php/3-normal-forms-tutorial/comment-page-2/#comment-97365</link>
		<dc:creator>Chatura</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jun 2010 09:34:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great Work!!!! 

Very useful article.Keep it up the good work 

Thank you</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great Work!!!! </p>
<p>Very useful article.Keep it up the good work </p>
<p>Thank you</p>
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		<title>Comment on 3 Normal Forms Tutorial by Ravi</title>
		<link>http://fredcoulson.com/blog/fred/index.php/3-normal-forms-tutorial/comment-page-2/#comment-97016</link>
		<dc:creator>Ravi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jun 2010 06:14:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s a well organized article which coverup the whole content of normalization.....

Thanks

Ravi..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a well organized article which coverup the whole content of normalization&#8230;..</p>
<p>Thanks</p>
<p>Ravi..</p>
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		<title>Comment on 3 Normal Forms Tutorial by Mahesh</title>
		<link>http://fredcoulson.com/blog/fred/index.php/3-normal-forms-tutorial/comment-page-2/#comment-96633</link>
		<dc:creator>Mahesh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jun 2010 16:43:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is a wonderful article.It really cleared all my doubts in normalizing table.I guarantee that who ever reads this article must leave some comments.

Thanks
Mahesh</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is a wonderful article.It really cleared all my doubts in normalizing table.I guarantee that who ever reads this article must leave some comments.</p>
<p>Thanks<br />
Mahesh</p>
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		<title>Comment on 3 Normal Forms Tutorial by Syed Jahangir Zafar</title>
		<link>http://fredcoulson.com/blog/fred/index.php/3-normal-forms-tutorial/comment-page-2/#comment-94799</link>
		<dc:creator>Syed Jahangir Zafar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jun 2010 11:23:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>realy i never seen this type of top level notes before at any where. keep it and moves to describe the database more topics like that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>realy i never seen this type of top level notes before at any where. keep it and moves to describe the database more topics like that.</p>
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		<title>Comment on 3 Normal Forms Tutorial by Snake</title>
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		<dc:creator>Snake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 May 2010 23:05:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks! Neat little article this. Using it to study for my exam !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks! Neat little article this. Using it to study for my exam !</p>
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		<title>Comment on 3 Normal Forms Tutorial by Nisha</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nisha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 May 2010 19:31:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Articale is too good... The concept has been explained in so neat fashion. Kudos....
Would have been nice, if we had continued with BCNF and 4NF too...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Articale is too good&#8230; The concept has been explained in so neat fashion. Kudos&#8230;.<br />
Would have been nice, if we had continued with BCNF and 4NF too&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on 3 Normal Forms Tutorial by Bob Schmidt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob Schmidt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 May 2010 18:50:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Correction... 
I would like your opinion on a this: your model would still be in 3NF if you were to drop the ORDER entity and instead ORDER_LINE resolves the m:m between CUSTOMER and ITEM.  Order date repeats on each line as does order number.  Order number is not a key, just a tag.  I know this is not customary.

My reasoning is:
1) Nothing in the forms dictates that we eliminate repetition of a data value.  And I do think that mulling this over is worthwhile.
2) The only consequential fact is that the customer wants the item.
3) The implementation of this model has resulted in false rules in that some order processing systems will not allow order lines to be moved between orders.

If it is true that the ORDER is composed of lines such that a different set of lines constitutes something different, then your model stands.

Of course, this is my opinion and I would love a response.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Correction&#8230;<br />
I would like your opinion on a this: your model would still be in 3NF if you were to drop the ORDER entity and instead ORDER_LINE resolves the m:m between CUSTOMER and ITEM.  Order date repeats on each line as does order number.  Order number is not a key, just a tag.  I know this is not customary.</p>
<p>My reasoning is:<br />
1) Nothing in the forms dictates that we eliminate repetition of a data value.  And I do think that mulling this over is worthwhile.<br />
2) The only consequential fact is that the customer wants the item.<br />
3) The implementation of this model has resulted in false rules in that some order processing systems will not allow order lines to be moved between orders.</p>
<p>If it is true that the ORDER is composed of lines such that a different set of lines constitutes something different, then your model stands.</p>
<p>Of course, this is my opinion and I would love a response.</p>
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		<title>Comment on 3 Normal Forms Tutorial by Bob Schmidt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob Schmidt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 May 2010 14:51:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank for this and trusting you will not object, I am going to post a link to your pdf in an email I am distributing here at work.

Your work is far better than what is found on Wikipedia, I would love for you to get it linked there.  It is better than the top 5 links found in Google.    

I would like your opinion on a this: your model would still be in 3NF if you were to drop the INVOICE entity and instead have a simple m:m between order line and customer.  I know this is not customary.

My reasoning is:
1) Nothing in the forms dictates that we eliminate repetition of a data value.  And I do think that mulling this over is worthwhile.
2) The only consequential fact is that the customer wants the item.
3) The implementation of this model has resulted in false rules in that some order processing systems will not allow order lines to be moved between orders.

If it is true that the ORDER is composed of lines such that a different set of lines constitutes something different, then your model stands.

Of course, this is my opinion and I would love a response.

- Bob Schmidt</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank for this and trusting you will not object, I am going to post a link to your pdf in an email I am distributing here at work.</p>
<p>Your work is far better than what is found on Wikipedia, I would love for you to get it linked there.  It is better than the top 5 links found in Google.    </p>
<p>I would like your opinion on a this: your model would still be in 3NF if you were to drop the INVOICE entity and instead have a simple m:m between order line and customer.  I know this is not customary.</p>
<p>My reasoning is:<br />
1) Nothing in the forms dictates that we eliminate repetition of a data value.  And I do think that mulling this over is worthwhile.<br />
2) The only consequential fact is that the customer wants the item.<br />
3) The implementation of this model has resulted in false rules in that some order processing systems will not allow order lines to be moved between orders.</p>
<p>If it is true that the ORDER is composed of lines such that a different set of lines constitutes something different, then your model stands.</p>
<p>Of course, this is my opinion and I would love a response.</p>
<p>- Bob Schmidt</p>
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